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	<title>Comments on: Labour spin backfires in Rochester and Strood</title>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
		<link>http://www.viewfrommedway.co.uk/2010/01/11/labour-spin-backfires-in-rochester-and-strood.html/comment-page-1#comment-24257</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Mr Osborne would like to phone a friend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Mr Osborne would like to phone a friend?</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
		<link>http://www.viewfrommedway.co.uk/2010/01/11/labour-spin-backfires-in-rochester-and-strood.html/comment-page-1#comment-24255</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI. I believe this is one such post concerning the Cameron Direct event http://bit.ly/7iIJ2J            See comments.            Perhaps Mr Osborne would care to give us a definitive answer on whether he did or did not attend the event as he states?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI. I believe this is one such post concerning the Cameron Direct event <a href="http://bit.ly/7iIJ2J" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7iIJ2J</a>            See comments.            Perhaps Mr Osborne would care to give us a definitive answer on whether he did or did not attend the event as he states?</p>
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		<title>By: Cupid Stunt</title>
		<link>http://www.viewfrommedway.co.uk/2010/01/11/labour-spin-backfires-in-rochester-and-strood.html/comment-page-1#comment-24254</link>
		<dc:creator>Cupid Stunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the debacle that was the Luton and Wayfield by-election one would have thought Labour, and particularly Mr Osborne would have learnt their lesson. It appears not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the debacle that was the Luton and Wayfield by-election one would have thought Labour, and particularly Mr Osborne would have learnt their lesson. It appears not.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan W Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.viewfrommedway.co.uk/2010/01/11/labour-spin-backfires-in-rochester-and-strood.html/comment-page-1#comment-24253</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan W Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did wonder who would be first to reply, Tom, but thank you for your comment, anyway.

1. Posting on a blog under a pseudonym generally implies that you wish to remain anonymous. No intention was made on my part to make it seem as though I had uncovered this fact through hard work - I was merely saying to my readers that at first glance it appeared as though the author was anonymous, but that it quickly became obvious that they were not.

2. It is hard to disprove someone who makes such a claim about how a web page appeared in the past, which makes it difficult to be able to rebuke that point, but I would offer up one question: if the webpage appeared to say &quot;Rochester and Strood&quot; when I checked last night (and again today), and it said &quot;Rochester and Strood&quot; on 22 November last year (&lt;a href=&quot;http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:9I5M-30piSYJ:www.myconservatives.com/campaigns/mark-reckless-rochester-and-strood+my+conservatives+rochester+and+strood&amp;cd=6&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=uk&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google cache&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/AlanWCollins90/InterestingAndWeirdWeb#5425442507558364386&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;screenshot&lt;/a&gt;), why would it have said anything else, particularly anything that was incorrect, between those dates?

3 &amp; 4. In terms of these issues, my post was primarily aimed at Mr Osborne. No claim was made that any of the data itself was made up by you or anyone else. As stated in the post, you revealed statistics freely available from My Conservatives. However, Mr Osborne, in citing his &quot;online source&quot;, claimed that the documents were leaked (on his &lt;a href=&quot;http://musingsfrommedway.blogspot.com/2010/01/anyone-spare-some-change.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;, and on &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/tristanosborne/status/7606806137&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;twitter&lt;/a&gt;) and tried to use them to claim that there was an &lt;em&gt;overall&lt;/em&gt; fundraising deficit.

I am well aware of the definition of deficit, and with regards to the targets on My Conservatives, which you referenced, there are indeed &quot;deficits&quot;. The rebuke was with regards to Osborne&#039;s spin of the facts, claiming that there is an overall fundraising deficit - which, to my knowledge, there is not.

Peter - thank you for your comment, but please do be careful on how far you stray into the realms of personal insults. True or not, I cannot approve any comment which becomes too insulting towards an individual.

That said, I had not heard about the Cameron Direct incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did wonder who would be first to reply, Tom, but thank you for your comment, anyway.</p>
<p>1. Posting on a blog under a pseudonym generally implies that you wish to remain anonymous. No intention was made on my part to make it seem as though I had uncovered this fact through hard work &#8211; I was merely saying to my readers that at first glance it appeared as though the author was anonymous, but that it quickly became obvious that they were not.</p>
<p>2. It is hard to disprove someone who makes such a claim about how a web page appeared in the past, which makes it difficult to be able to rebuke that point, but I would offer up one question: if the webpage appeared to say &#8220;Rochester and Strood&#8221; when I checked last night (and again today), and it said &#8220;Rochester and Strood&#8221; on 22 November last year (<a href="http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:9I5M-30piSYJ:www.myconservatives.com/campaigns/mark-reckless-rochester-and-strood+my+conservatives+rochester+and+strood&#038;cd=6&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Google cache</a>, <a href="http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/AlanWCollins90/InterestingAndWeirdWeb#5425442507558364386" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">screenshot</a>), why would it have said anything else, particularly anything that was incorrect, between those dates?</p>
<p>3 &#038; 4. In terms of these issues, my post was primarily aimed at Mr Osborne. No claim was made that any of the data itself was made up by you or anyone else. As stated in the post, you revealed statistics freely available from My Conservatives. However, Mr Osborne, in citing his &#8220;online source&#8221;, claimed that the documents were leaked (on his <a href="http://musingsfrommedway.blogspot.com/2010/01/anyone-spare-some-change.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">blog</a>, and on <a href="http://twitter.com/tristanosborne/status/7606806137" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">twitter</a>) and tried to use them to claim that there was an <em>overall</em> fundraising deficit.</p>
<p>I am well aware of the definition of deficit, and with regards to the targets on My Conservatives, which you referenced, there are indeed &#8220;deficits&#8221;. The rebuke was with regards to Osborne&#8217;s spin of the facts, claiming that there is an overall fundraising deficit &#8211; which, to my knowledge, there is not.</p>
<p>Peter &#8211; thank you for your comment, but please do be careful on how far you stray into the realms of personal insults. True or not, I cannot approve any comment which becomes too insulting towards an individual.</p>
<p>That said, I had not heard about the Cameron Direct incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The odious Osborne is a proven liar. That is why he is not taken seriously either by the Conservative Party or, indeed, his fellow Labour activists. One senior Labour Party staffer even described him to me as a &quot;a useful idiot&quot; when we met at the Medway Fresher&#039;s Fair.   

Osborne posted on various websites that he had attended the Cameron Direct event at Princes Park last year, however when it was pointed out to him that attendees all had to be on a police security checklist and his name was not on the list, he suddenly went very quiet on the issue.

Osborne is a living example of why people are tired of Labour. He is trite, insignificant and morally corrupt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The odious Osborne is a proven liar. That is why he is not taken seriously either by the Conservative Party or, indeed, his fellow Labour activists. One senior Labour Party staffer even described him to me as a &#8220;a useful idiot&#8221; when we met at the Medway Fresher&#8217;s Fair.   </p>
<p>Osborne posted on various websites that he had attended the Cameron Direct event at Princes Park last year, however when it was pointed out to him that attendees all had to be on a police security checklist and his name was not on the list, he suddenly went very quiet on the issue.</p>
<p>Osborne is a living example of why people are tired of Labour. He is trite, insignificant and morally corrupt.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Callow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Callow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

A few points by way of reply...

1) I have never claimed to be anonymous. All links to the blog were posted from my personal twitter account. Therefore any attempts you make to sound like you have uncovered this fact make you look, to say the least, foolish.

2) All names, constitutencies and monetary amounts were copied VERBATIM from MyConservatives at the time of research (8th January). I did this for this very reason, knowing someone would rebuke the research.

3) The documents were produced by me, but only in a sense of data collation. The data is freely available to the public and there is no made-up data here.

4) I don&#039;t quite know how you or your &#039;source&#039; suggest that saying there are deficits is &quot;rubbish&quot;. There are target amounts. They have not been met. Ergo, there is a deficit. Would you like a dictionary?

Regards,

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>A few points by way of reply&#8230;</p>
<p>1) I have never claimed to be anonymous. All links to the blog were posted from my personal twitter account. Therefore any attempts you make to sound like you have uncovered this fact make you look, to say the least, foolish.</p>
<p>2) All names, constitutencies and monetary amounts were copied VERBATIM from MyConservatives at the time of research (8th January). I did this for this very reason, knowing someone would rebuke the research.</p>
<p>3) The documents were produced by me, but only in a sense of data collation. The data is freely available to the public and there is no made-up data here.</p>
<p>4) I don&#8217;t quite know how you or your &#8216;source&#8217; suggest that saying there are deficits is &#8220;rubbish&#8221;. There are target amounts. They have not been met. Ergo, there is a deficit. Would you like a dictionary?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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